tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574198575168538104.post6913404779508794406..comments2024-02-27T14:15:43.978-06:00Comments on Modern Medievalism: My kingdom for a horse! Re-evaluating Richard IIIThe Modern Medievalisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07238571174836044412noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574198575168538104.post-77388306725475895602017-05-28T17:29:46.758-05:002017-05-28T17:29:46.758-05:00There ad plenty of contemporary accounts that the ...There ad plenty of contemporary accounts that the Princes were dead. Some accounts written in Europe. Henry did illude to the blood of infants. If the boys were alive why did not Richard produce them.<br /><br />And I am sorry those boys were a threat to him. They were a magnet for any discontent rebel. Richard also killed their half brother and uncle without trial.<br /><br />Do you seriously think he would have let them go? And of Burgandy had them all alone she would have produced them way sooner.Bekalynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00040113857261101655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574198575168538104.post-61939398046521433972014-03-05T21:41:57.192-06:002014-03-05T21:41:57.192-06:001) The reason Richard didn't deny "the ru...1) The reason Richard didn't deny "the rumors" is because they weren't being publicly noised about until nearly two decades after his death. <br /><br />2) There was no reason for Richard to want the lads dead -- they had already been declared illegitimate, via an Act of Parliament called "Titulus Regius". The reason? At the time Edward IV had married (in secret) Elizabeth Wydeville, he was already married (again in secret) to one Eleanor Butler, neé Talbot, daughter of Humphrey Talbot, the Earl of Shrewsbury. Upon usurping the throne with the help of the French, Henry "Tudor" destroyed the evidence submitted to Parliament of the first marriage, and ordered Titulus Regius to be repealed unread.<br /><br />3) In his justification for usurping the throne, Henry "Tudor" did not mention the alleged murders of the former princes. (You know, the alleged murders that history books tell us were his reason for invading and the reason the public took him joyfully to its collective bosom?)<br /><br />In fact, there is evidence for indicating that he didn't believe them to be dead. For one thing, in 1495, when Perkin Warbeck was running around calling himself the younger of the two former princes -- who though they were bastards still had a much better blood claim to the throne than Henry did -- Henry backed away a bit from demonizing Richard. He even took the singular step of spiffing up Richard's resting place at Greyfriars, and even provided an epitaph that acknowledges Richard as a rightful king of England. (The tomb was destroyed along with the rest of Greyfriars a few decades later, during the Dissolution.) Only after 1502, when the last of the serious Yorkist threats to his rule were put down, and Perkin Warbeck long since dead, did Henry start circulating the idea that Richard offed the lads.<br /><br />So if Richard didn't kill the lads and in fact had no reason to kill them, what happened to them? Current thought is that he had them spirited away, possibly to Burgundy, where Richard's sister Margaret would have taken care of them.<br /><br />Oh, and by the way: Richard wasn't planning to marry his niece. What he was planning to do, after his wife Anne died, was to marry Princess Joanna of Portugal and have his niece Elizabeth marry the person who would become Manuel I of Portugal. This has been known in Portugese circles for hundreds of years, but the English-speaking world didn't catch on until the 1970s, apparently because Henry had ordered destroyed as much as he could get away with of the documentation of Richard's reign (not just Titulus Regius).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com